Showing posts with label V/ shall. Show all posts
Showing posts with label V/ shall. Show all posts

'in order to' and 'so that'

source: www.bbc.co.uk
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clauses of purpose: 'in order to' and 'so that'
the difference between to + infinitive and in order to + infinitive.
in these two sentences:

    a) I went to school to study.
    b) I went to school in order to study.

(b) seems to be all right, though perhaps you do not say it.


to… / in order to…. / so as to….

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and explicit than to by itself, but both are equally possible
in both spoken and written English.
They both convey exactly the same meaning when expressing purpose:

    * To cut the tree down, I had to lend a chainsaw.
    * In order to cut the tree down, I had to lend a chainsaw.

In order to is normal before a negative infinitive. We do not usually use to by itself here:

    * In order not to oversleep, I set the alarm for seven o’clock.
    * I walked very slowly across the room with the drinks in order not to spill them.

We can also use so as to instead of in order to and it carries the same degree of explicitness or formality:

    * We moved house last year so as to be closer to our children and grandchildren.
    * I gave him a cheque in advance to ease his financial problems and so as not to delay the building work.

Before stative verbs like know, seem, appear, understand, have etc, it is more usual to use in order to or so as to:

    * I talked to them both for half an hour so as to have a thorough understanding of the problem.
    * I followed her around all day in order to know whether she had any intention of meeting him.

   
So that.../ in order that ...

These structures are also frequently used to talk about purpose, although so that is more common and less formal than in order that.

Note that these structures are normally used with (modal) auxiliary verbs.

Compare the following:

    * He’s staying on in Australia for nine more months so that he can perfect his English.
    * He’s staying on in Australia for nine more months in order to perfect his English.

    * We’re going to leave by three so that we don’t get stuck in the rush-hour traffic.
    * We’re going to leave by three so as not to get stuck in the rush-hour traffic.

    * Jamie had an afternoon nap so that he wouldn’t fall asleep at the concert later.
    * Jamie had an afternoon nap in order not to fall asleep at the concert later.

    * In order that you may pass the exam, we recommend you read through all your notes. (Very formal.)
    * In order to pass the exam, we recommend you read through all your notes. (Less formal.)

   

Note that in informal colloquial English, that may be omitted from the so that construction.

Listen out for this variation, though I wouldn’t recommend that you use it:

    * I’ll come early so we can have a good chat before Denise arrives.
    * I’ve bought a video camera so I can film the children as they grow up.
    * We shall wear warm clothes when we go camping in October so we don’t get cold.


source: www.bbc.co.uk

WILL / SHALL

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will shall
what's the difference
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Here below you have
some different [but similar] points of view
(including mine) about the use of these verbs...

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All quotes were taken
from a forum about this subject.

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1.

future tense

Tomorrow I will go to the market
= Tomorrow I shall go to the market.

expressing intention
I will lose ten pounds in weight by Christmas.

"I believe that in older forms of English,
'will' was only used to express intention and
'shall' was only used to express the future tense.
Some grammarians (perhaps for this reason) insist that
'shall' is the correct way to form the future tense, but
in modern speech 'shall' sounds a little old-fashioned and formal
(to me as a Londoner, at least), and you'll find 'will' used far more often. "
↪ (Garry Knight)
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2.

"My apologies to Mr. Knight for the contradiction,
and to everyone else for being so pedantic as to reawaken this [discussion] after so long,
but I just couldn't let this one go uncorrected.

Although "shall" is seldom used (at least in AE),
it is correctly used with the first person in the indicative sense,
and with the second and third person in the imperative sense.
'Will' is used otherwise."↪  (C.A.Mullen)
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So:

Indicative:
I shall; you will; he, she, or it will. (same for plural)

Imperative:
I will; you shall; he, she, or it shall. (again, same for plural)


and...


according to Mr.Garry,
Tomorrow I will go to the market                      = future     [ a scheduled task ]

Tomorrow I shall go to the market.                    = future     [ a scheduled task ]

I will lose ten pounds in weight by Christmas.   = intention  [ a kind of "imperative to myself"? ]
                                                                                                    
DECISION, maybe...

acc
ording to Mr.Mullen,

Tomorrow I will go to the market                     = intention   [ a kind of "imperative to myself"? ]

Tomorrow I shall go to the market.                   = future     [ a scheduled task ]

I will lose ten pounds in weight by Christmas.  = intention  [ a kind of "imperative to myself"? ]
                                                                                                     DECISION, maybe...

The only poit where they diverge, in my opinion,
happens when
Mr. Garry doesn't see the nuance of meaning...
In "Tomorrow I'll go to the market" we
could be expressing both: a decision or a scheduled task.


Therefore, I think Mr. Mullen made his point!
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"Plus, SHALL tends to be preferred in legal documents, in British English at least,                        
presumably because commitments made in contracts
                                                                  
contain not only the idea of 'will' but "must"
                                                                                
and hence are to be understood in the imperative sense.                                                                
E.g. 'company A shall pay company B for the goods that company B shall supply'. " 
                     
(HiphenSpider)  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
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4.

[ still about SHALL ] 
"(...) It might be the technically correct thing to say but (...) you won't sound like everybody else normally sounds, so I advise foreigners to avoid that construction.

(Residente Calle13)

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Take a look  at the examples below...

- You shall go to the ball!  (would have said Cinderella's fairy godmother)

-You shall not pass! (a famous quote from Gandalf, a wizard in Lord of the Rings)
means exactly that emphatic idea: an order, a decision, an intention... (below you have a picture)


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The biggest catastrophes that we've witnessed 
rarely come from information that is secret or hidden. 
It comes from information that is freely available and out there, 
but that we are willfully blind to.” — Margaret Heffernan

"I'M SO HORNY... BUT THAT'S OKAY: MY WILL IS GOOD" (Kurt Cobain)


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Ainda quer mais exemplos:

fonte: inglesnapontadalingua.com.br/shall-e-will


Observe essa frase: Shall we dance?

... o termo shall está sendo usado para expressar um convite.
E esse é um dos usos mais frequentes de shall nos dias de hoje.


Observe os exemplos abaixo:
  • Shall we go out for dinner? [Você gostaria de sair para jantar?]
  • Shall we visit the park? [Você gostaria de visitar o parque?]
  • Shall we go inside? [Você gostaria de entrar?]
    • Let’s go out, shall we? [Vamos sair, que tal?]
    • Let’s stay here, shall we? [Vamos ficar aqui, tá bom?]
    • Let’s talk to daddy, shall we? [Vamos falar com o papai, ok?]
Agora observe que a estrutura usada é ‘shall we…?‘. Isso porque você está se incluindo no convite. Ou seja, é você e a(s) outra(s) pessoa(s) que farão algo juntos. Anote também que ‘shall we…?‘ é um modo um tanto quanto formal de convidar alguém para fazer algo.

Shall we?‘ é neste caso a tag question de ‘let’s‘.
O sentido é: ‘que tal?’, ‘ok?’, ‘tá bom?’.

Creio que nem preciso falar mais nada sobre isso, mas
se os exemplos não são o suficiente, entre em contato comigo.
(só pra constar: nordnael@gmail.com)
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fonte: inglesnapontadalingua.com.br/shall-e-will